Just to say I'm thinking of you all over there in Australia with this dreadful fire.......thanks for replying to my text so quickly Mac.........love and hugs, but filled with saddness for all who have lost their lives......

I am with you there Ultra. What a sad thing!
They are suggesting that most of these fires were started by an Arsonist. I am wondering how much times in jail someone can get for all the people these fires have killed.
Then I am hearing ppl say “they should have been given better warnings to get away from the fires” I am saying, “ What are you stupid!
Nature only gives so much, and fires travel very fast.
Humans are just that, only human.
Even though that sort of thing pisses me off. I feel for all the ppl who have lost love ones, their homes and lively hood.

I am trying to do my little bit, donating blood in Albany, what clothes I can.
Send in the Rain.......

Thoughts and prayers from across
the ocean!!!

Scary situation for those that are
affected.

Cannot believe at how sick some people
can be (the arsonists). To know that they
*get off* at watching the destruction
and heartache.

lets not just blame the arsonists...there are others out there that should shoulder some of the blame called Greenies....if the bloody tree huggers allowed some clean up work to be done, such as allowing people to clear fallen trees and graze cattle in some of these areas the then there would not be the fuel laying around for the fire to get hold of....I believe that part of the reason for the fires to travel so quickly is because of the extra fuel laying around....not all leaves and fallen trees house critters....instead in Australia what do we do...give a minority group all the rights including to form a political party for their own agendas

Sorry Chuck I wasn't forgetting. We have that crap over here also.
When the fires raged through Barker, one would think ppl would clean up their backyards.
I took a drive around the back lanes just before summer and was shocked by the mess there.
Sent a piece into the local rag, still nothing happened.
Yes the Greenies do have a lot to answer for. Burning off also allows for some plants reproduce from their seeds. They don't think of that. Nor are we allowed to cut up fallen trees for fuel in the winter.
Something ppl can do, is have a rainwater tank or dam set up with sprinklers attached to the house all running through a generator. Even if there isn't a fire they can still water their yards.
Anyway the " what if's, hows, or what ever are past, it has happened and nothing can turn back time. The very slow process of healing has to begin.

your right Roo...the healing has to begin and as soon as possible for the unfortunate ones so they can start to rebuild their lives....wasn't having a shot at anyone just felt like I had to get it off my chest....it was the one point that seemed to be missed...but I did see on the news tonight that someone has brought up the point now

I'm thinking there'll be trouble over the Kinglake fires,Chuck,eh? Council brought in a CSIRO Forestry Professor to give his opinion about cleaning,back burning,allowing people to clear & fell trees. The council not only ignored his VERY strong recommendations to get the clearing done ASAP they totally ignored his report! Brought in a second opinion,he agreed with the FIRST report,so they tabled it! Shoved it under the rug. That Prof has been fighting them for three years now and screaming that it was a torch waiting for a match...fucking Greenies!

Yeah saw that too Chuck. No worries about getting stuff off you chest.....such a nice chest it is too

Not a lot can drive me to tears. This has been the first in many a year.

And on that note, I shall have another glass of wine then hit the sack.

Good night to all around the globe *huggles*

Sorry mactavish didn't read your note properly. I can believe what you are saying, that is something that happens with Gov/council dept. Makes one wonder where their heads are. Someone should wipe their arses better.....

To fecking late now. But perhaps something in the future will be done. This is the second fire Disaster for Vic in the last 25 yrs.
Lessons are hard to learn there!!!!!

somehow Mac I think that it all blow over as the council will somehow manage to make the shit disappear....reckon most councils are coated with teflon so the shit just slides right off....and now I am seeing that the Rudd government is taking $50 off the $950 he was offering to secure the Greenies vote in the senate.....now I am not worried about the money he was offering as I think it should go to the bushfires but again I repeat about aminority group bein allpowerful in Australia....load of shit I reckon which matches what I think of Greenies

In those conditions, the argument re parks is a red herring. Once a fire starts crowning, stupid bloody theories about ground-level fuel load have no application. Also not that at least one of the major fires started and got going in pine plantation. Pine plantations have about zero understory. Have a look at some of the video thats about at the speed the fucking thing went up open grassy ridges. No nasty national parks there!

I love ya Doc

Actually,bugger all of those fires started in Pine plantations. The Bendigo ones started at the roadside. Ditto Churchill. Both started by accelerants in the undergrowth and they moved so fast because they had shitloads of groundfuel to grab onto.

not withstanding the fuckwad in SA buggering with treasurery the greenies still have a lot to answer for...there was a case in Sydney where the fire brigade wanted to burn off dangerous undergrowth so that the vegetation was not such an accelerant and they actually had to go to court to fight the greenies so it could be done.